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Wednesday, 21 December 2011

Egypt: Black day; 17 December 2011



The burning of L'Institut D'Egypt






Titled: Fire engine being stopped from putting out the fire ...

Summery of what's being said;

Girl - Let them put the fire out

Protester - Why put it out?

Another protestor - Let it burn

Girl - Put it out, go put it out

Different protestors - No


... and another ...




... and the protesters ...



Titled: Honourable protesters in front of Cabinet Office building rolling drugs


Molotov bombs ...



And a 'Molotov' for the Authority of Roads and Bridges close by ... Fire did run and it's now, and it's contents and documents, burned ... and looted!



And those are ...

Peaceful protests?
:-(

Walls go up [click]

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's really worrying. Egypt seems to be heading rapidly towards becoming yet another failed Muslim country. How long before Britain ends up the same way? David Cameron at least espouses the virtues of Christian values, but his views are largely ignored by the secular majority.

Sam said...

For over 30 years, I lived in Britain believing it is a Christian country, so DC's speech came as a surprise to me, is it not?! Do you consider Britain secular? Because, now that I thought about it a bit, I believe it is Christian still :-)

... and that's where failure for both countries can be avoided, in that, as DC says, it is 'fear' that is stopping many Christians declaring their Christianity. By the same token, it is also fear that is stopping many Egyptians also declaring that they do not believe in this current deliberate Islmistisation of a much simpler religion than what's being 'enforced' on them now. Those who are afraid in both countries are afraid because they would be going against the tide, the trend, or the fashion of the day, and you wouldn't want to be shunned by your peers because you are going against the tide so you go with it. That applies to all age groups too. That's why his views look like they have been ignored by the seculars while in reality they are not ...

How to deal with it? Easy 'Education', sort of 'not in your face', ie, how about emphasising good manners, and language, at schools [in small doses], and let the young kids grow up with that. So, not just discipline, but manners too ... and things along those line to promote cohesion and acceptance ... etc ... a bit of real equality of opportunity, not just vague and empty words, would be nice too ... promote good manners overall and the media, yes, tone it down 'a bit' but 'not a lot' ... if he doesn't mind being eaten alive trying though ...

For the Egyptians, a different approach to actually do the opposite in a way to make them dare a bit more to say 'no' ... ie, to reverse 30 years of confusion between 'social'and 'political' so that they can then be confident enough to make the right choice when they go to that polling station, and watch after, just like the Brits do now. How the Brits do that, believe it or not, follows a Muslim belief that 'Religion is for god and homeland is for all', which the under Islamistisation Muslims now are confused with ... so, while I want to educate the Egyptians on that, I hope the Brits never lose that quality. Precisely why I don't agree with David Cameron's wish to involve the church in politics. Do that and you end up with another Egypt in Britain ... but I believe in the Egyptians, and that they will come out of that cycle in no time at all, if they survive the economics that is, and if they do not succumb to more islamistisation because of need. Proof? Egyptians are the most flirteous peoples inhabiting this earth, just ask their history books if you don't believe me, so, there is no way they can live without that for long! Watch my lips!

Sam said...

But that's ok, because, as he said he is not deep into rituals and has doubts, I'm not a stricktly ritual person either, is that neccessary to believe? And don't all believers have doubts? You see, when one is totally without doubt, then that's secular. Religious is meant to make you think, and with think you doubt, and with that, you will arrive to the wisdom, if you doubt enough. For example, he said he sometimes wonders why hard to take things happen in life, well, since I am older, it looks to me as if maybe a hard event in his life was a very difficult to take excercise to prepare him for the harder responsibility he has today ... and maybe is a big part of the reason why he is/will make a much better leader than others who were not hardened before taking that huge responsibility and why, as I believe, he has a heart; he feels for people, because he felt the hardest of hardships himself.

And fail, no, Egypt will not fail, nor will Britain, ever! They might fall on a knee or so every once in a while, but they will always stand up very tall again, it's their destiny.

Of course, if you, or anyone, look at your family tree, you will arrive to Egypt, always! Maybe why we should now help mum stand up and heal from that fall, brother/sister ...

... and that missing value of all values? You think about it, here is a clue; doubt your own self about something and see how you will deal with that ... and let me know how you get on

And in my previous comment, I meant to say, teach those values [alone, without name because they are universal values anyway], including manners to kids at school, you'd be surprised how they will in turn teach their adults too :-)