The butterfly is a flying flower, The flower a tethered butterfly

Sunday, 5 September 2010

A quack birth ... naturally! :-)


:-)




The happy event took place in the rabbit hutch

(Alas! Video has now been removed by 'The Telegraph. It was about a chicken on a duck's egg. When the duckling hatched, it was afraid of water and behaved like a chicken :-)


37 comments:

Julie said...

Awww..

Sam said...

Only in BRITAIN, where else!

... and I want them ... gimme, gimme ....

:-D

Cockroach Catcher said...

We used to have a farm and we keep ducks, chicken and turkey.
The Cockroach Catcher

Hypercryptical said...

Lush!!!

:o)

Sam said...

Isn't it something Anna! :-)

... and CC! Just the person we need! Is this lucky or wot!

Cos, as you know, there are deep child psyche issues here!

Sooo .... with your wide expertise as a proessional child psychiatrist, And a birdy farmer too, do you think junior duck here will ever get over being made in a sellotaped womb and having a chicken for a mother?

Will he ever be a duck again?! ... and if not a duck, what is he?!

With no clear identity, can you imagine what the other birdy kids will call him! ... how can any birrdy, duck or otherwise, cope with that, eh?! :-(

... Then there is a wider future implication to consider too, like, will humans, one day soon, be able to give birth to different species? ... 'Really' have your own cat or dog for example?

That'sss when having a pet will really mean, in every sense of the word, that they're 'family'!


... how many more hours to the end of fast? ....

:-D

Cockroach Catcher said...

The answer may not lie with a Child Psychiatrist. I would try Konrad Lorenz who shared a Nobel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqZmW7uIPW4

Or with Amy in Fly Away Home

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116329/plotsummary

You can name the duck: Chuck or Dickens though.

Sam said...

This is absolutely amazing CC, always live and learn! thank you :-)

So, little kidling's behaviour here has a name in science?! 'Filial imprinting', wow!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_%28psychology%29

And here is the brilliant zoologist himself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Lorenz

Shouldn't he have been called Canard instead of kunard?

And for birdy; Chuck ... Dickens, how about Charles Chickens then? I think, yes ... it has that very regal and respectable sound about it, doesn't it?

... and , what will happen if one took a box of Tesco's eggs with'm to bed? .... I wonder ... mmmmm?

one might be in for a Nobel then ... or two

Cockroach Catcher said...

You may find my autobiographical bits interesting in my book, The Cockroach Catcher in Google Book.

Sam said...

I found it, and will start reading the first chapter tonight. I like reading material of medical and human nature. I am sure I will greatly enjoy your book so ...

Thank you CC, much appreciated

:-)

Julie said...

'... and , what will happen if one took a box of Tesco's eggs with'm to bed? .... I wonder ... mmmmm?'

I think you might end up with a very messy bed, Sam.

It's just reminded me of when I was a child, I found a bird egg that had dropped out of a nest. I put it into the top pocket of my blazer in an attempt to warm it and hatch it, but it broke :(

Sam said...

"I think you might end up with a very messy bed, Sam."

So my maternal feelings towards Tesco won't bear any ... chicks then. eh?

And that bird in a womb in your pocket Julie just shows the incredible bond we all have with the oval thingies, I am sure each and everyone of us have a story ... or two to tell about eggs!

Maybe I should tell about some of mine sometimes :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

Reminds me of Booby, not 'i'. As I was reading Richard Dawkins.

http://mudfooted.com/blue-footed-booby/

Sam said...

Yes, the blue footed booby! if only all boys would learn how to woo a girl like he does!

And CC, your book is amazing! I am only on page 44 but so far, so wonderful. I think how you turned this anorexya patient around just goes to show what human interaction rather than tick box protocols can do in a short period of time and at low cost too. This is an exemplary illustration on perhaps one of the reasons why a good health system like the one in Singapore can not be fully implemented in Britain. it's the change of perceptions and methodology to suit that's difficult.

And, as a city girl, I found your early life in villages fascinating and very enriching for a bright child like yourself, I suppose, had I been your mother, I too would have not asked you any questions when you were told to leave that school ... but the school supplier of cockroaches! [shiver]Dearime! I run a mile when I see one, let alone catch them and dissect them! boys will be boys after all, now that I know that you weren't joking. you are a cockroach catcher, not only of the soul, but for real! @@

The book is a must read doc, I am really enjoying it :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

You have made my day! Thanks. There is nothing like reading a genuine review of one's own work. It took me five years and I am working on a second one.

Hope you continue to enjoy the book.

Thanks again.

Sam said...

No, I think you've made your own day CC. I have just finished medical school and all of the Hong Kong part. I am now with you in the UK and am still immersed right into the person that is you. Just as if I was living your life myself. I have switched over to the point that I am not only CC but I have an opinion on what CC encounters ... the professional side too @@ Is there such a phenomena in psychiatry too? Is it normal?? :-)

'We' are now in the UK, mind you, I had hoped the chinese experience would've lasted a bit longer!

And I am glad you are writing your second book, any chance of a fictitious medical novel? Not many about you know. And fiction is almost always based on own experience, and of that, you do have a whole rice field - if you see what I mean ...

Cockroach Catcher said...

In the chapter, The Power of Prayers, I was completely frank in looking at the difficult question of faith and science esp. when we did not know. I was very happy with being honest about "not knowing" as thirty years later we knew why. I covered that in the blog post:
http://cockroachcatcher.blogspot.com/2008/11/teratoma-one-patient-one-disease.html
All posts related to the book can be searched using the key: The Cockroach Catcher on the left hand side.
Thanks for your comments.

Sam said...

I've just read the case on your blog. I suppose this is one of the most difficult situations for a doctor to be in. When measureable and perhaps proven scientific 'knowledge' learned over such long periods to time looks as if it clashes with faith, or one's fidelity to a percieved but immeasurable 'truth'.

Not mixing religion with medicine/science in situations when a doctor is certain of his knowledge and therefore ability to help the patient, IMO too, is what a good medical practitioner should always strive to do so as not to allow bias or prejudice to cloud his duty to the patient.

But in the case of your Teratoma patient, when science was exhausted, turning to faith at the end was a must for the family for the sake of the patient, but also 'for you' because it was 'your' science that was exhausted, only you still felt the duty to your patient. Helplessness is why anyone turns to faith hoping for an instant, near or distant solution, or 'hope' ... and, in your young patient's case, it came. Whether it was meant to come on it's own or not is irrelevant. Because for for all involved, the passage of hard time was more bearable with that hope faith gives.

For the family, turning to faith was because of their unconditional and lasting love for their daughter. For the doctor, he was trying to redeem his conscience - and that can apply to the family too, because it is part of what love means; conscience and love are twins.

Science and faith compliment each other when used at the right time ... here, it was when 'you' became 'needy', perhaps as much as the family of your young patient was but in a different way, as a 'responsible' professional ... you didn't want to leave any stone unturned. A sign of a 'man' a patient can trust, who also happens to be a doctor. Only that 'man' needs to trust in himself too if he is to cope with himself.

Do I make sense?

Please read the definition of 'faith' and 'science' in the dictionary, the strong link between them is there and can tell it much better than me. Is it then a coincidence that conscience is made of the prefix 'con' and the word 'science'?

The dictionary is the most comprehensive book of philosophy ever, methinks :-)

[Teratoma has teeth, a jaw and sometimes a tongue?? Is this a figure of speech or for real?! @@]

Cockroach Catcher said...

My daughter loves her Shorter Oxford.

I was trying my best to stick to ancient Chinese custom.

Teratoma can have most things. It is one of those things we never forget from medical school days.

Sam said...

"I was trying my best to stick to ancient Chinese custom."

A vicious monster of a disease, eh?

... but even I know now it exists and a bit about how to find it and fight it too! Thank you Doctor

:-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

I have to confess that I am patiently waiting for your next set of comments.

A friend came to visit me recently (they are from quite far away) and she said that she and her husband re-read my book and found new things they have not noticed before.

Yes, I still read it now and again.

Sam said...

I was a a bit lazy lately, even no new posts, see! ... but will read some more chapters tonight and let you know :-)

Sam said...

Ok, CC, about the Frueds, father and daughter, do you honestly believe they were sane?! No need to mention Freuds' mum or anything, or even the impact of that weird relashionship with mum and the lasting effect of that on daughter. But in the case of michael, don't you think that it was you being able to prove yourself to the child that eventually made him open up to you and not because of the Fruedian teaching impact on your thinking of how to deal with him? There was no other way to deal with that child so, that was not the Frueds who healed him, humanity did.

As you know, children have this incredible ability to stare at someone's eyes and find them out in an instant, suss whether they are sincere or not. Michael played that trick with you, then he opened up - from a mother's point of view, that say's a lot to me. It's good the nighmares and the soiling ended, but I think he will never recover from his ordeal. Will he? I'd really like to know what you think about that.

And about nature not neccessarily being so beautiful [cute frog can be most poisonous], don't everything have a double edge? ie, the more beautiful anything is, the more lethal it can become [the more beautiful a woman is, the more jealous her man, if any, will be], hence beautiful women are not lucky in love - but beautiful they are still, yes?

... and still reading :-)

Sam said...

Ah, ok, so I come to the end of what I can read on line and I have really enjoyed what I read too. I think with the wealth of the hands on experience within, this is a must read for any wanna be psychiatrist or anybody working with children in any professional capacity. You say it is but I am not sure it is suitable for members of the public though, as I was deeply affected by the later case of Michael. I found it shocking and quite disturbing, I was actually wondering if the cases will now start to graduate from the weird to the weirder. It's somehow like watching surgery for those who can't stand the sight of blood like myself, now that I didn't make it to doctor. The few times I tried to watch a surgery on youtube, I found myself compelled to close one eye and cover the other with my hand then periodically look through my fingers ... michael's case had the same mental effect on me; unexpected and frieghtning.

However, I thouroughly enjoyed your childhood and am very impressed by the amazing number of hobbies you keep ... to professional level too! Very admirable even though I may not share your opinion on conservation for example, as I believe that nature should be left alone to rebalance itself despite man's activities [farming, fishing, mining, etc] and that his intereference will only lead to choas [whole families of elephants now need to be culled! :-(] I also don't believe in trying to protect anything from extinction either as new species will always appear to replace the old if nature is left all alone, and I don't know if we're tipping a crucial balance by our 'protection'.

Amazing array of abilities you have CC, very humbling. Indeed Anna Frued was right when she said that psychiatrists should always have many other interests than their clinical work, and you took that to heart :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

You might have picked up from my other posts that I am Jungian. So I am not supposed to talk about Freud. Just read Salley Vickers (who is also Jungian).

Now, Michael is my first therapy case and I cannot forget him. My consultant was Jungian and once senior registrar to D W Winnicott, and so I am influenced by him and for that I am pleased. That chapter was my attempt at some interesting tension between the Freudian and Jungian views.

That family was very disturbed and disturbing and I later saw the boy’s sister: she will be in the next book, also a very purturbing story.

It was good that I could spend a lot of time with Michael. I saw him three times a week, a luxury unheard of nowadays, but we were still not the Freudian or Kleinian 5-times-a-week ones.

Aren’t cockroaches lovely? Someone wrote to me to say they should all be extinguished. I stay away from saying too much about women!!!

Sorry Michael’s story had that effect on you. I tried to create suspense!!! A friend read it and could not sleep for three nights. Someone told me something as weird could not have been fiction.

Some of my friends managed to get their local library to buy the book. Someone told me he read the whole book on Google by using different accounts.

Is there any Chapter that you have not been able to read but has a title you find interesting?

Your take on conservation - interesting. I am not actually one for rescuing as the rescuing is often misguided. (Have you read Amy Tan talking about rescuing fish from drowning?) However, I did see first hand the hatching of turtles and their decimation.

I assume the Chapter on Airline Boy might have given you that impression, and it was my way of justifying why we still do what we still do and not give up on cases.

I was at some of Anna Freud’s knitting sessions!

Thanks so much for your valuable and interesting feedback.

Sam said...

"I stay away from saying too much about women!!!"

I was giving an example based on your book CC! Remember that effect of the first mini skirt on you?! ... but never mind, let's talk about the sea instead, beautiful, yet lethal, but that doesn't take away from it's mesmerising beauty, get me?

"Aren’t cockroaches lovely?"

Eh?! @@ 'beautiful women', shrug off and no comment, but cockroaches are 'lovely'?! What's the matter with you boys nowadays?! Could it be something in the water you drink? Cos, there is a 'reeaaal' mix up here CC! But, aaagain ... ok, whatever you say, you're the 'expert'! Not the only one smitten by Roach's beauty either! Only there seems to be something 'I' can't see in the 'gooorgeous' insect cos they are the 'in' thing nowadays, a must have item ... is it because I am a female and that's a new male thingy? ... but you never know, it might catch and they might grow on me too one day ... aren't those antennas beauuutiful! (shuddderr)

And about Jung, all I know now is that he looked deeper at the human psyche somehow that Frued became jealous of him to the point that their relationship became a feud rather than a friendship. I had an untie who was prof and dean of psychology at Cairo uni,son also now a psychiatrist and I used to borrow books from her when I was younger and very inquisitive. Anything including about psyche, some diseases like catatonia ... even the paranormal, etc ... as you do when you are young. Perhaps I should read a few entries about Jung and his work in Wikipedia to refresh my memory.

And re your book, I read the first 10 chapters and that was it, so didn't get to read the 'Airline boy' one, sounds interesting as I really love flying, but will read any if you wish and let you know. 'Entrepeneurs' sounds interesting too ... and so does ... and ... :-D
But it was 'faking it' that gave me that idea about your views on conservation, and much as I don't like one creature or another, I keep away but I don't hate them because they have no hand in their own creation. So, no, I wouldn't like to see anything exterminated either, it's unnatural just like preservation, saving from extinction .. etc

One more little feed back CC, how do you cut off from ubnormal cases? You spoke about how 'you' felt with the Teratoma case and that was very touching as it shows the human side of the doctor, even his moments of weakness. It would be interesting and perhaps a first if you can include in your new book, now that you have retired, the effect of difficult and weird cases on you and the technique you follow to cut off and detach ... does it always work?

... and thank you for trusting in me :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

Thanks.
Interesting you can only get ten chapters and you've read it in such detail: including the mini skirt.

I tried google and got 40 chapters in the contents and then you can click the chapters.

A third of my patients fake!!!At least.

Will write more later.

Thanks.

Sam said...

"you've read it in such detail"

How else do you read a book? ... and it was a bit of sense of humour and I like that.

Thank you too :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

In our 10 seconds society, people do miss things. You obviously are not part of the new 10 seconds society.

Cockroach Catcher said...

If you could read the Chapter: Sadness. ##I quoted:

And your experience makes you sad:
I had rather have a fool to make me merry
than experience to make me sad…..

As You Like It - Act II, Scene 7
William Shakespeare

Writing a book is one of the ways and my posts on Jung dealt with that.

No, you do not cut off. I remember my cases in detail. The book was written with no reference to any notes at all.

When you see patients for long enough, they are inside you. You do not need notes.

Sam said...

"In our 10 seconds society, people do miss things."

Although others might argue that because of those hectic time limits, you have to do it right first time or you would end up in a mess. You even prove that yourself here:

"I remember my cases in detail. The book was written with no reference to any notes at all."

And that Shakespeare quote, the type of fools he met has either been extinct for centuries or have evolved as everything else he knew has. I bet if he saw the modern day foolss, they'd make his skin cringe, partly why we have psychiatrists, isn't it? :-)

And I tried googling again but can not access anymore of your book. If you wish, would you pass that link to those 40 chapters you found yourself when you gogled? ... but only if you wish, or I will understand if you don't.

Cockroach Catcher said...

Sent direct to: sam7@Rebels.com

Sam said...

Thank you for the link, but it does stop at the 10th chapter 'Faking it is not all bad' still. So, I still can't access the chapter on 'sadness'. I suppose this is your publishers way of protecting your interests and rightly so too.

Good luck with your second book :-)

Cockroach Catcher said...

Check the previous email please. Sadness should be in the attach.

Sam said...

I've just read the chapter, thank you CC @@

To be honest, perhaps it was for the best Mrs Coleman died after this whole series of abuse starting with her- passing by her daughter and ending with her torment and death!

I tell you what CC, sometimes you need to forget about Shakespeare and Ibsen ... and go for Tom&Jerry and read Mickey mouse instead, if only to equalise what you see.

Goodness, I don't think I would've lasted a month if I had your job. I bet you're glad you retired! ... A lesson?! You bet!

Phew! .. no more cases please ... where is that Popeye the sailor man film gone!

Cockroach Catcher said...

Phew! Thanks and thanks for your concern. You did ask me about my difficult and weird cases.

I do feel slightly sad some chapters upset you as it was not my intention to upset anyone.

If you want my Mickey mouse chapter, let me know. I feel obliged to provide some relief and my chapter called Ping Pong is just the right type, I hope. I won't do a thing otherwise.

Thanks for now.

Sam said...

I asked how 'you' coped CC. But don't let it worry you, it's perhaps me who is a softy really, you were doing a great job and a really worth while service to those children. One needs to commend you on that. I should also say that I am still of the opinion that your book is a 'must' read for professionals working for children, a must!

... only, no more for me :-D

Thank you and regards.

Cockroach Catcher said...

Thank you so much. I suppose in my discipline things are never as clear cut as in other branches of medicine. So we try. Sometimes it is like trying to save those beaching whales in Tasmania.

Keep blogging!!!