“No man, not even a doctor, ever gives any other definition of what a nurse should be than this - 'devoted and obedient'.”
'Dr nurse' is one of Dr Grumble's 'shared items list
'A fresh supply of well-trained primary care practitioners could help counter a physician shortage.'
'since these nurses with a doctorate can use “Dr.” some physicians worry that patients could become confused. “Nurses with an advanced degree are not the same as doctors who have been to medical school,”
Of course! and how misleading and dangerous is that?
Why are they not considering training more doctors to be GPs instead then? And the 70 extra medics recruited by medical schools, what will become of them?! It seems that, in the UK, everybody is having a go at medicine apart from doctors! With not enough training posts and according to MMC, many FY2 doctors who do not secure a post in 2008 will be given councelling to leave medicine!
Madman's logic! train doctors at great expense then ask them to leave medicine 2 years after graduation and 'upskill' nurses to do their work instead and pay for the upskilling too! ...PhD are now a penny a dozen! Any Tom, dick and Ali can get a PhD nowadays! I bet hospital porters will soon be doing PhDs on bed maneuver in hospital corridors! PhDs are a plenty these days, some not worth the paper they are written on while some others in diciplines than can't possibly satisfy the rigour of a 'true' doctorate degree!
With this Dr nurse in mind, is there any hope of Professor Tooke's recommendation regarding redefining the role of a doctor being implemented? If there is, how?
Some of the junior doctors I know tell me that some nurse practitioners have their own rooms or offices in the hospital where no one is allowed in, even the doctors, while those same nurses are allowed to walk in anywhere they like including the doctor's space. A doctor posted on the Remedy forum that his hospital wants to close the rooms used by doctors while on call! He said that the hospital intends to also make any on call rooms left 'mixed sex!' How will female doctors rest under these conditions? Of course, many will not, so, how safe for patients to be treated by an extremely tired doctor is this? ... I wonder if this does not go against a person's human rights? Is this legal? ... I wouldn't be surprised if this doctor posted again on Remedy that ttheir on call rooms were converted into offices for the Dr nurse brigade! Post MTAS, nothing surprises me now ... It disgusts me ...
... I am really beginning to dislike the term 'junior' and think it is acting against those highly trained and very well qualified fully registered professional doctors whose only fault is that they are young!
All this above is a disgrace! ... insanity!
Reading this Florence Nightingale quote at the bottom, this is one nurse, who should be listened to by those who decide on these crazy ideas, even that she is long been dead ....
“Apprehension, uncertainty, waiting, expectation, fear of surprise, do a patient more harm than any exertion”